Opened 7 years ago

Closed 7 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

#20 closed System Defect (fixed)

Immediate freeze on intial X screen, before installer

Reported by: kad77 Owned by:
Priority: blocker Milestone:
Component: Installer Version: 1.4
Keywords: crash critical X vesa vga Cc:

Description

On nForce4 chipset, AMD64 processor, nVidia 7800GT (DVI cable) 1.4rc1 install disk freezes immediately after X initial checkerboard screen with garbage overwriting visible display. Checksum on CD ok.

Boot sequence displays that all hardware has been appropriately discovered (and is labeled correctly by kernel).

Cannot loader installer.

EVGA 133-K8-NF41-AX MOTHERBOARD
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/evga_nforce4_sli_edition_mainboard/index.shtml

Change History (7)

comment:1 follow-up: Changed 7 years ago by tim

Are you able to determine which driver Xorg has elected to use when the system freezes?

comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 Changed 7 years ago by kad77

Replying to tim:

Are you able to determine which driver Xorg has elected to use when the system freezes?

If you have a suggestion, I can try to find out. I don't see anything specific in the dmesg, and the checkerboard X screen appears shortly after 'loading image' I think. The freeze if within seconds after the checkerboard, before installer can even run.

comment:3 follow-up: Changed 7 years ago by kris

Can you confirm if "vesa" mode works right in this case?

At the loader screen, choose option "6" emergency console, and then then run the XGUI in vesa mode at the text menu.

comment:4 in reply to: ↑ 3 Changed 7 years ago by kad77

  • Keywords X vesa vga added

Replying to kris:

Can you confirm if "vesa" mode works right in this case?

At the loader screen, choose option "6" emergency console, and then then run the XGUI in vesa mode at the text menu.

Hi kris, thanks for responding. Emergency console, VESA works. I see you are maintainer of the script, glad you are seeing this.

Perhaps the text-mode options screen could give a hint? I hadn't attermpted the emergency console as I (wrongly) assumed it would simply dump me to a csh and leave me in unixland, similar to what MS's installer does. The text menu is very clear, nice.

Is X bombing with the default vga driver? Is there any way to detect this and failover in the initial X GUI installer launch, much like PC-BSD does when you setup the monitor *after* a regular install completes?

comment:5 Changed 7 years ago by kris

Actually if its failing on the default load, then its the "nv" driver which is causing problems. We're running the latest version of "nv", 2.1.3, but apparently they need to fix it for your particular card:

http://people.freedesktop.org/~aplattner/nv

I may see if we can make it more clear though, so users know that instead of just an "Emergency Console" it also provides a "VESA" mode.

comment:6 follow-up: Changed 7 years ago by kris

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from new to closed

Fixed, I've add an option to the loader that says "Run installer in VESA mode" which should help clear this up a bit :)

comment:7 in reply to: ↑ 6 Changed 7 years ago by kad77

Replying to kris:

Fixed, I've add an option to the loader that says "Run installer in VESA mode" which should help clear this up a bit :)

Thanks Kris. I was posting as you wrote that, and found Trac wouldn't let me post. Hope you see my reply!

Original:

The comment was in regards to the default nvidia crash ticket #20:

Replying to kris:

Actually if its failing on the default load, then its the "nv" driver which is causing problems. We're running the latest version of "nv", 2.1.3, but apparently they need to fix it for your particular card:

http://people.freedesktop.org/~aplattner/nv

Thanks for the tip. I had elected to use the latest nVidia binary (nicely included), which works flawlessly. I'll admit I've never played with beryl/compiz before but the 3d desktop is nice. I dunno if the reverse engineered open-source driver is interesting to me. I'm not looking to run OpenBSD here. ;-)

I may see if we can make it more clear though, so users know that instead of just an "Emergency Console" it also provides a "VESA" mode.

Sure. All I'm suggesting is that "Emergency Console" may have the wrong connotation, perhaps "Emergency Fail-safe Menu" or even "Troubleshooting Options", and then include a another text submenu in emergency with some quick tips (e.g. "5. Last Resort: PC-BSD Installation FAQ/howto").

Some other new users may not have multiple computers available to get online and check into things while they are installing. Any text made available for quick tips/guides while your machine is tied up with the install CD is a bonus, imho. Thanks again!

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