Opened 5 years ago

Closed 5 years ago

#230 closed System Defect (fixed)

PCBSD-8

Reported by: GeeKen Owned by: kris
Priority: major Milestone: 8.0
Component: Installer Version: 8.0-BETA
Keywords: Cc: trac-bugs@…

Description

PCBSD is fabulous but there are various install Bugs to mention.

1) When the installer gets stuck in an error it states that it will send an email report summary. This email sender appears to work but it never actually sends anything back to my email address. Check it out - does it send anything back to yourselves?

2) The certificate for this Trac site is not certified, apparently. Would be good to get this to be accepted by FireFox?. It looks bad
for newcomers.

3) The 32 Bit (x86) installer is not robust like the 64 bit one is. On both BSD-8 Beta and the RC1, the x86 installer will not work on my HP "Pavilion" A410n, 2.8 Ghz, single processor. It gets every error on the way through and I can correct some of them.

The PCBSD x86 installer finally always halts at an "un-demountable" point, something to do with the disk-drive ?

I instead run the new Linux Mint 8 RC1 on it and that installer works fast and perfectly, with no intervention, sticking or halting. It adjusts itself on the way through, whereas the PCBSD x86 installer gets stuck and waits for user input.

Anyways, the Mint-8 FluxBox? RC1 installer is worth checking out - it's a winner !

But the PCBSD-8 64 bit installer works perfectly too, on my
other HP, the 64 bit dual core AMD.

So thats a mystery - - -

Thanks & good luck with all of this.

Ken Gibbs

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Change History (3)

comment:1 follow-up: Changed 5 years ago by kris

  • Owner set to kris

I've now fixed the e-mail log script, it'll prompt you to copy it offsite now, and let you view the log at the same time. However e-mail won't work since we don't have smtp settings for each user :P

Can you re-test the x86 install, and this time do a "more" of the logfile when it fails? If I can see the actual error, it should be easy to fix.

comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 Changed 5 years ago by GeeKen

Replying to kris:

I've now fixed the e-mail log script, it'll prompt you to copy it offsite now, and let you view the log at the same time. However e-mail won't work since we don't have smtp settings for each user :P

OK - great. Problem is I don't install it every day ! I have some text from part of the error if this helps, see below. So will TRAC BASE receive the error reports automatically and directly ???

Can you re-test the x86 install, and this time do a "more" of the logfile when it fails? If I can see the actual error, it should be easy to fix.

'The error text that I thought was major was as follows :

"
ZFS NOTICE : Prefetch is disabled by Default on i386 - - - to enable add : "vfs.zfs.prefetch-disable=0" to /boot/loader.conf

ZFS WARNING : Recommend minimum kmemsize is 512 MByte : expect unstable behaviour. Consider tuning vm.kmem_size and vm.kmem_size_max in /boot/loader.conf

ZFS f/s Version 13

ZFS storage pool version 13.

etc etc etc
"

The i386 installer has several problems :

1) The above, which is terminal - - -

2) Another massive error is if I try the "upgrade option" (Beta to RC1) where it unmounts everything first. During this process it finds something unmountable because it can't find the item. This causes it to stop. (this error sequence was repeatedly reported in the email log that you have now fixed from above - hopefully you have this record). If it can't find something that it wants to remove, why stop when it must be already removed !

3) Install always needs to be run in Mode 6 and/or 2, so that the install doesn't end up with a
non-responsive monitor and sometimes disabling ACPI allows the install to go forward beyond these setup erros to the major halting errors. Here I would suggest that all installs BEGIN IN VESA so that no video halt occurs. And if the ACPI error occurs then it should retry with ACPI disabled.

4) At all times the user can be consulted to avoid a freeze- for eg., a screen could come up showing the undesirable situation, offering optional solutions :

Message = "I have halted - suggest that you disble ACPI - shall I proceed with no ACPI ?"

LINUX MINT-8 installer seems to make all of these kind of decisions by itself - successfully
too.


BSD-8 RC1 works great on my AMD 64 bit HP. The bugs that I keep seeing are:

1) The Mouse wheel can cause screen jumping when the wheel is scrolled up too far. Its
nervous on the Mouse Wheel. FAR BETTER THAN THE BETA VERSION (which was quite psychotic - - -).

2) When using Firefox 3.5.7 (maybe this is fixed on version 3.6 ?), any slows in the Internet
feed causes the whole machine to lock up, while it waits. My machine is a dual-core, surely the other core can carry on ? Following on from this though process, there needs to be a review of how BSD-8 handles multi-core processors. Maybe there is more speed to be had - - -

Handling the Firefox "lock-up" problem is essential. As it stands I just have to wait for a minute for the Internet feed to rebegin or for the block of material that's pending to download.

Anyways, hope this data is useful.

BSD-8 is the Best. The Linux-MINT-8 I am testing is also great but it fails upon upgrade as the upgrades are uncontrolled. This is the main reason why PCBSD will win in the end - - -

Hey - what happened to TURTLE ?? - that was a cool program for teaching kids and doing small APPS. CAN WE HAVE IT BACK ??

Thanks for your amazing input - keep up the great work !

Regards
Ken Gibbs
Engineer

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comment:3 Changed 5 years ago by kris

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from new to closed

Thanks for the info! I've made some fixes to the installer and hopefully these issues will be alleviated. As for ZFS warnings / errors, those are normal for now. We are simply using the ZFS defaults on i386 / amd64, they may remove those warnings down the road or improve the defaults they initialize with.

With the ACPI issue, that would be a cool fix to have it disable automatically if a fault occurs. I'll have to ask some of the FreeBSD devs on why we can't do that in the future :)

Oh, also, if you see screen slowdowns, try making sure that compositing is disabled in KDE4 -> start -> system settings -> Desktop -> enable desktop effects, set to unchecked.

As for TURTLE, do you mean this app?

http://klogoturtle.sourceforge.net/

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